2026-04-27 09:00:13 From Luis' Note Taker to Everyone: This meeting cannot be recorded because of the Zoom host’s settings. If you are the host, please enable “Record to computer files” for external participants in your Zoom recording settings." 2026-04-27 09:00:14 From Luis' Note Taker to Everyone: Waiting for the Zoom host’s permission to begin taking notes and recording. 2026-04-27 09:21:29 From Alice L to Everyone: I'm wondering why the speaker attributes "not enough chips" to double counting as opposed to fact? 2026-04-27 09:48:03 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: Participants are welcome to drop questions into the chat; we will do our best to answer and repeat them (for those without access to chat) 2026-04-27 09:49:19 From Ed Sheets Yakama Nation consultant to Everyone: To promote reliability, do you have any analysis on demand management, interruptibility, or other techniques to reduce these large loads during power shortages? 2026-04-27 09:50:44 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: @Alice L the idea is that it's very possible there is double-counting, given the fact of chip manufacturing puts a constraint on the very large load queue 2026-04-27 09:54:50 From James Hanika to Everyone: So no? 2026-04-27 09:56:38 From Alice L to Everyone: Replying to "@Alice L the idea is that it's very possible there...": hmm, thanks 2026-04-27 09:57:50 From Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE to Everyone: Sapna Dowla ASE - It may be helpful to think about large loads not only in terms of a threshold, but also in terms of how they interact with the system, things like load profile, timing, and flexibility. Curious how others are thinking about whether those system characteristics are already being captured in current definitions, or if there are gaps? 2026-04-27 09:57:55 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: we encourage participants to rename yourself with your name and affiliation/organization if you have one, by clicking the three small dots next to your name Jennifer Snyder | WA UTC (she/her):👍 Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE:👍🏼 2026-04-27 10:01:02 From Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE to Everyone: Replying to "To promote reliability, do you have any analysis o...": great question 2026-04-27 10:01:14 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: emails: Charlie.inman@utc.wa.gov, heather.moline@utc.wa.gov 2026-04-27 10:03:39 From Jessica Koski to Everyone: My apologies! That was unintentional. 2026-04-27 10:06:34 From Elijah Cetas - CRITFC to Everyone: My question is about how to protect ratepayers from the costs from data centers purchasing the bulk of the region’s cost effective resources, effectively driving up costs for other customers even when the resources are fully assigned to the data centers. The discussion is often framed around protecting other customers from paying the costs of the resources data centers use, but there seems to be a gap in how to shield customers from the costs of other customers losing access to least cost generation and transmission they otherwise would have benefited from. Thanks. 2026-04-27 10:07:03 From Elijah Cetas - CRITFC to Everyone: Replying to "My question is about how to protect ratepayers fro...": This was intended as a question for the presenters - specifically what other jurisdictions have done to look at this issue 2026-04-27 10:09:00 From Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE to Everyone: Just to build on the earlier discussion, it seems like the threshold is useful as an initial screen, but the system impacts also drive planning considerations. So one question may be whether the threshold is doing more of a signaling function, while the detailed analysis is driven by characteristics like timing, load profile, and how the project is expected to come online? 2026-04-27 10:14:20 From James Hanika to Everyone: Why are we operating from an assumption that entities that provide no utility to the public are entitled to the electricity that the lands and waters of this region produce? Is this due to utilities being owned by for-profit companies? Because most people just don't want these things, period. 2026-04-27 10:18:44 From Shawn Bonfield, Avista to Everyone: I was mistaken on the threshold in Idaho as a bill passed in the recent legislative session establishing a threshold that goes into effect on July 1st. Idaho House Bill 911 established a 50 MW threshold over a 60 month period. Link to bill: HOUSE BILL NO.911 (2026) - Electricity, new large loads Charlie Inman (WA UTC):👍 Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE:👍🏼 2026-04-27 10:19:35 From Alice L to Everyone: Zach's point is particularly important given that new DCs will almost certainly come online before these new policies go into effect. 2026-04-27 10:22:40 From Amanda Sargent to Everyone: Size threshold could be scaled by the utility’s existing generation and T&D capacity b/c the impact or burden will differ greatly depending on where. Risk includes frequency response 2026-04-27 10:23:06 From James Hanika to Everyone: Was the intent to simply read people's questions without addressing them? 2026-04-27 10:25:05 From Robert Meredith - PacifiCorp to Everyone: I think that it should be based upon the maximum contract level. 2026-04-27 10:26:08 From Ann Collier, SEPA to Everyone: To Heather's question about operational characteristics, ~25% of the large-load tariffs tracked in DELTa as of 3/31/2026 use a "minimum load factor" in addition to a minimum demand. These range from 40% to 98%. 2026-04-27 10:31:11 From Elijah Cetas - CRITFC to Everyone: Replying to "Why are we operating from an assumption that entit...": I think this outcome is a result of the regulatory principle called the “Duty to serve” or in Washington, the Obligation to Serve - WAC 480-100-123. There is an argument that this principle should be amended to account for the dramatically larger scale of AI data centers, especially the “hyper scalers”, and to give utilities a way to say no if the load can’t be safely or affordably met. Language like this was included in the proposed legislation last session, HB 2515. 2026-04-27 10:32:29 From Charlie Brown - Data Centers Coalition to Everyone: Will you please post that large load docket number again? 2026-04-27 10:32:59 From James Hanika to Everyone: Replying to "Why are we operating from an assumption that entit...": @Elijah Cetas - CRITFC awesome - thank you very much for the context and how this could be addressed. 2026-04-27 10:33:03 From Jennifer Snyder | WA UTC (she/her) to Everyone: Replying to "Will you please post that large load docket number...": UE-260162 2026-04-27 10:33:27 From Jennifer Snyder | WA UTC (she/her) to Everyone: RCW 80.28.110: 2026-04-27 10:35:08 From Elijah Cetas - CRITFC to Everyone: Replying to "RCW 80.28.110:": Thank you! 2026-04-27 10:36:38 From James Hanika to Everyone: Replying to "RCW 80.28.110:": Thank you! 2026-04-27 10:47:22 From Alice L to Everyone: I forgot to ask the most basic question! Low vision accessibility -- can someone share a link to the slides? 2026-04-27 10:49:46 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: we apologize we did not have time to post the final slide deck before today, but we did post a draft to the docket UE-260162 that should help, and here is the link: UTC Case Docket Document Sets | UTC Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE, Elijah Cetas - CRITFC:❤️ 2026-04-27 10:56:52 From Alice L to Everyone: Replying to "we apologize we did not have time to post the fina...": Thank you! So helpful, but not seeing any GridCare there, can you share a link here? 2026-04-27 10:57:43 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: Replying to "we apologize we did not have time to post the fina...": sorry, we did not receive all the slides in advance. 2026-04-27 10:58:00 From Charlie Inman (WA UTC) to Everyone: Replying to "we apologize we did not have time to post the fina...": They will be posted to the docket following this conference! 2026-04-27 11:03:49 From Alice L to Everyone: Replying to "we apologize we did not have time to post the fina...": That's not good for low vision -- may I ask to make sure we have slides posted ahead in the future? 2026-04-27 11:05:08 From James Hanika to Everyone: I don't think it's appropriate to have an industry advocate framing the discussion about how to manage electricity requests from the industry they advocate for. Alice L:💯 2026-04-27 11:05:46 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: Replying to "we apologize we did not have time to post the fina...": thanks for calling this out. we are working hard to improve this internally. 2026-04-27 11:09:32 From James Hanika to Everyone: The current speaker is financially and career invested in the proliferation of data centers. It's not appropriate for a public commission to be platforming industry advocates to discuss this issue with the public. 2026-04-27 11:10:08 From Kevin Holland - Avista to Everyone: the example of the aluminum industry is less than accurate. The aluminum companies were economically motivated to shed load becasue the energy that they were contracted for was at a fixed price that was far less than the market value of that energy Robert Cromwell Consulting LLC:👍 2026-04-27 11:14:37 From Katie Rogers - WECC to Everyone: I heard the word capacity used a lot but capacity isn't always the best picture of energy availability. 2026-04-27 11:16:30 From jessica to Everyone: GA Power said that large load customers will provide $556 million per year in benefits to other customers, and froze base rates through 2028. 2026-04-27 11:17:05 From jessica to Everyone: https://www.georgiapower.com/news-hub/press-releases/psc-approves-savings-for-customers-and-energy-demands.html 2026-04-27 11:17:53 From Jim Huffman CDRPA to Everyone: interuptibility is considered to be reserves on the system and is a valuable resource to the region 2026-04-27 11:18:56 From jessica to Everyone: PG&E Patti Poppe also said 1 GW of large load results in 1-2% rate reduction. https://www.utilitydive.com/news/pge-wildfire-data-center-rate-case-earnings/746319/ 2026-04-27 11:20:01 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: Indiana/Michigan Power is another example of a place where their next rate case will include a base rate reduction, due to spreading costs out. I&M Announces Base Rate Reduction for Hoosiers Through Customer Benefits Plan 2026-04-27 11:20:25 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: Caveat: UTC has not yet studied these examples in-depth. 2026-04-27 11:21:28 From James Hanika to Everyone: It does not make any sense from a basic economic perspective to say that a large-scale demand is going to be introduced to the market and we will see a rate reduction. It's telling that an industry advocate said this could happen, and even the prime "example" of this is a 2 year rate freeze in Georgia, which isn't even a reduction. the only way to say that a reduction would happen is if data centers created more electricity than they're going to use, which 1) isn't something they're even saying they can do and 2) would lead to untold devastation due to the extractive and industrial processes needed to expand the "renewable" energy sources anyway. 2026-04-27 11:22:18 From Robert Meredith - PacifiCorp to Everyone: Certainly serving a flexible large load is better than serving an inflexible large load, but if you are a vertically integrated utility that is incorporating a significant level of new large load and have clean energy obligations, it's hard to imagine how this significant new load would decrease costs for existing customers, whether the new load is flexible or not. Elijah Cetas - CRITFC:👍 2026-04-27 11:24:01 From James Hanika to Everyone: That's an inherently perilous approach. large capital stakeholders who are financially motivated to push this through without regard for impacts on the public can overwhelm an information space in a way that citizen stakeholders cannot. 2026-04-27 11:24:29 From Laura Henry WUTC Planning to Everyone: Replying to "we apologize we did not have time to post the fina...": How do we make capacity more visible? 2026-04-27 11:25:15 From Alice L to Everyone: Transcript so appreciated, thanks! 2026-04-27 11:25:24 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: Replying to "we apologize we did not have time to post the fina...": can you clarify what you mean by capacity? 2026-04-27 11:27:29 From James Hanika to Everyone: "The way forward" is not necessarily making space for non-citizen entities that provide no public utility to use massive amounts of our energy. That framing is exactly the issue. 2026-04-27 11:28:23 From Elijah Cetas - CRITFC to Everyone: Replying to "Certainly serving a flexible large load is better ...": Thanks for sharing your perspective on this 2026-04-27 11:33:22 From Froylan Sifuentes, WWU Institute for Energy Studies to Everyone: Re: GridCare presentation. I think that regardless what GridCare service or focus is, there is a role for utilities to share more of their capacity utilization / distribution constraints for exactly what Shanna mentioned at the end towards better, faster, and cheaper siting of distributed renewables and batteries. This is not only a large-load concern, and I would argue that it is even more important for distributed VRE+batteries. If we want more competition in the provision of renewables and flexibility in our grid, having a better idea of when and where our distributed system constraints are is super important. I support the UTC having conversations on how to facilitate, with security and other concerns in mind, the sharing of this utility data to third-parties (researchers, power + battery business partners). The public stands to benefit from more data transparency in grid capacity utilization . Major, Sophie (UTC), Laura Henry WUTC Planning, Elijah Cetas - CRITFC, Emily Gilroy | WA UTC (they/them):👍 2026-04-27 11:50:16 From Kate French, BGA, she/her to Everyone: Really appreciate the note here that more utilities are differentiating between different load types. At some point in this workshop or follow-ups, it would be great to hear more from WA utilities about how they are differentiating between large loads, as well as challenges and emerging practices for forecasting industrial facilities and industrial electrification -- not just data centers. Emily Gilroy | WA UTC (they/them):👍 2026-04-27 11:54:44 From Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE to Everyone: Thank you for the presentation! Charlee Thompson (she/her), NWEC, Charlie Inman (WA UTC):➕ 2026-04-27 12:02:14 From James Hanika to Everyone: Before washington utility providers grant electricity access to large load users, they should be informed of the use. this notion from data center development advocates that they simply don't know what they're asking our energy to be used for is not something the public should accept as normal. if there's an industry acceptance of this, or if it's encoded in WACs or RCWs that this is the appropriate process, that should be flagged for legislative change. 2026-04-27 13:02:22 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Wagner, Cortney (UTC) (direct message): i left the meeting and lost hosting privileges...could you give those to me again? 2026-04-27 13:07:19 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: ceta = clean energy transformation act (state law) Chapter 19.405 RCW: 2026-04-27 13:16:22 From James Hanika to Everyone: The base assumption that data center construction and provision of electricity *will* happen, we just need to figure out the terms, is one that the industry is heavily relying on. The industry is framing this entire discussion as: the onset of massive electricity-consuming data centers is inevitable, despite the fact that we don't have excess electricity to provide them, and despite the fact that these facilities are used by tech companies in ways that harm humans. These projects are not inevitable. It would be appreciated if the individuals in public service roles didn't adopt the bylines of industry that is competing with the interests of the public that employs them. So thank you for the discussion on assumptions. 2026-04-27 13:17:17 From James Hanika to Everyone: Yes!! 2026-04-27 13:20:57 From Alice Lockhart to Everyone: Thank you for that! 2026-04-27 13:21:35 From James Hanika to Everyone: That's good to hear! 2026-04-27 13:21:41 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: obligation to serve (state law) RCW 80.28.110 2026-04-27 13:22:23 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: "everyone who applies to get electricity gets electricity," is my summary of that law 2026-04-27 13:24:15 From James Hanika to Everyone: ^ that's a great area of focus in the RCW, and appreciate Elijah earlier pointing to HB 2515 as a potential vehicle to revising the RCWs to eliminate this base assumption that those who ask will be granted electricity 2026-04-27 13:25:32 From Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE to Everyone: Glad you mentioned Demand response and EE! @Elijah Cetas - CRITFC! Agree we need to do more and this is a great place to do just that! As more data becomes available, it may help clarify the size of load, but also how it behaves over time, particularly where there are opportunities to better understand system interaction! Elijah Cetas - CRITFC:💯 2026-04-27 13:30:00 From Jim Huffman CDRPA to Everyone: Replying to "Glad you mentioned Demand response and EE! @Elijah...": environmental considerations can be included in an ai operational model per GridCare presentation. 2026-04-27 13:31:04 From Tyler Pepple to Everyone: Jaki’s comments on energy efficiency don’t account for the fact that the cost of residential energy efficiency is more expensive than the cost of industrial energy efficiency. PGE’s allocation proposal did not take this fact into account and also has not yet been accepted by the OPUC. Elijah Cetas - CRITFC:👍 2026-04-27 13:33:27 From James Hanika to Everyone: The notion that the proliferation of data centers to process data and create capacity for AI will create jobs is a dangerous sentiment and observably refuted by the industry's own projections. 2026-04-27 13:33:38 From Angelena Bohman, WA UTC to Everyone: @Jaki Ferchland - PGE would you be able to share a link or docket number to the proposed allocation changes for energy efficiency you just discussed? 2026-04-27 13:33:49 From Alice Lockhart to Everyone: In the case of AI data centers, I hope you are considering the net employment change, which will be negative. James Hanika:💯 2026-04-27 13:38:11 From Jaki Ferchland - PGE to Everyone: This is the docket link: https://apps.puc.state.or.us/edockets/DocketNoLayout.asp?DocketID=24470 Angelena Bohman, WA UTC:❤️ 2026-04-27 13:38:15 From James Hanika to Everyone: Thank you all for the receptivity to the input in chat and the responsiveness. The public needs the humans in these roles to protect the people that will be impacted by these large load users. 2026-04-27 13:38:44 From Jaki Ferchland - PGE to Everyone: This is the testimony link: https://edocs.puc.state.or.us/efdocs/HTB/um2377htb342438028.pdf Angelena Bohman, WA UTC:❤️ 2026-04-27 13:44:09 From Angelena Bohman, WA UTC to Everyone: Replying to "This is the testimony link: https://edocs.puc.stat...": Thanks so much! 2026-04-27 13:45:46 From Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE to Everyone: I appreciate the comments about flexibility and EE! I wanted to add - From our perspective, the most useful data is likely the data that helps align planning assumptions with project maturity, things like timing, staging, and system impact. 2026-04-27 13:48:13 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: for those new to the term "grid utilization," here are some resources: Grid Utilization Resources Charlee Thompson (she/her), NWEC:👍🏼 2026-04-27 13:49:42 From Charlie Inman (WA UTC) to Everyone: The bill Ed Sheets was referring to was HB 2515 from the 2025-2026 legislative session in WA: HB 2515 Washington State Legislature 2026-04-27 13:54:13 From Charlie Brown - Data Centers Coalition to Everyone: Is the first graph - 9th plan load layers - from the Power and Conservation Council? Page 29 on the slides. 2026-04-27 13:54:47 From Zach Baker - NWEC to Everyone: Replying to "Is the first graph - 9th plan load layers - from t...": Yes 2026-04-27 14:03:20 From James Hanika to Everyone: Will the slides from today's presenters be available for download? 2026-04-27 14:04:01 From Charlie Inman (WA UTC) to Everyone: Replying to "Will the slides from today's presenters be availab...": The slides from ESIG, LBNL, and SEPA are available right now on the docket. The slides from GridCare will be available in the next day or two. Alice Lockhart:❤️ 2026-04-27 14:05:19 From Charlie Inman (WA UTC) to Everyone: Replying to "Will the slides from today's presenters be availab...": UTC Case Docket Document Sets | UTC This is the document list for Docket UE-260162 2026-04-27 14:09:06 From James Hanika to Everyone: "Fast tracking" the regulatory process to accommodate a rapid expansion of energy demand from facilities that harm the environment and are used by tech companies to harm humans is not acceptable. 2026-04-27 14:11:36 From James Hanika to Everyone: Thank you! 2026-04-27 14:12:40 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: here's a little more about the national lab REFLEX effort I mentioned Kate French, BGA, she/her:👍🏻 Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE:👍🏼 2026-04-27 14:12:48 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: Improving U.S. Industrial Competitiveness and Productivity – Berkeley Lab News Center 2026-04-27 14:13:09 From James Hanika to Everyone: Yes and it is understood that UTC has no role in those other regulatory processes. Thank you for the effort to flesh that out further. 2026-04-27 14:26:12 From Jim Huffman CDRPA to Everyone: On a regional scale we have the opportunity to make more efficient use of available resources including the grid and generating resources. With new renewable resources that will be coming online there is a need to reimagine the system to achieve economic dispatch for both utility customers and to achieve environmental objectives. We are not currently making the most efficient utilization of what we already have. AI provides the opportunity to better plan and operate the system. 2026-04-27 14:35:35 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: DER = distributed energy resource Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE:👍🏼 2026-04-27 14:36:16 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: see the definition within CETA (number 13 on this page): RCW 19.405.020: 2026-04-27 14:36:54 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: DERs can include electric vehicles, batteries, demand response/flexibility, for example 2026-04-27 14:40:42 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: here is the E3 study Rep. Doglio referenced: Webinar & Report: Resource Adequacy and the Energy Transition in the Pacific Northwest - E3 2026-04-27 14:41:19 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: here is the duke study referenced: Rethinking Load Growth: Assessing the Potential for Integration of Large Flexible Loads in US Power Systems | The Nicholas Institute for Energy, Environment & Sustainability Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE:👍🏼 2026-04-27 14:44:00 From Alice Lockhart to Everyone: Load Flexibility: As a ratepayer and a mother of a daughter who went to the ER during the last heat dome, I'm going to say no exemptions. As someone soon to be on a fixed retirement income, with children I can expect to be under-employed, I'm going to say that LLCs should simply be billed sufficient to hold rate increases to historical levels or better, and insofar as that doesn't happen, to pay for assistance for all who need. As a citizen who has been paying attention, yes to everything Rep Doglio says. 2026-04-27 14:44:13 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: sylvan report: PNW Near-Term Winter Resource Adequacy - GridLab 2026-04-27 14:47:34 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: bridging the load gap report: Bridging the Load Gap: A Collaborative Path for Utilities, Hyperscalers and Customers - The Ad Hoc Group 2026-04-27 14:47:36 From Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE to Everyone: Bridging the load Gap BYODC concept: https://www.ase.org/sites/ase.org/files/large_load_customer_concept_report_-_jan_2026.pdf 2026-04-27 14:48:42 From Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE to Everyone: similar BYONG: https://www.pjm.com/-/media/DotCom/committees-groups/committees/mrc/2026/20260325/20260325-item-03---2-dcc-and-google-byong-issue-charge.pdf 2026-04-27 14:51:28 From Rep. Doglio 22 to Everyone: So sort of behind the meter, but on your grid? 2026-04-27 14:51:41 From James Hanika to Everyone: eventually, we will not have enough energy for both human demand and these facilities. whether there is rate protection or not, scarcity is scarcity. 2026-04-27 14:52:30 From Rep. Doglio 22 to Everyone: Right. That's what I meant - it is funded like a behind the meter, but it's on your side of the meter? 2026-04-27 14:55:22 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: shawn mentioned the CCA = climate commitment act, the cap-and-trade on emissions law in Washington state. Climate Commitment Act - Washington State Department of Ecology 2026-04-27 14:56:11 From Gall, James (Avista) to Everyone: Replying to "Right. That's what I meant - it is funded like a ...": Correct, the difference is the resource is owned/contracted by the utility on the customer behalf, any time the load and generation is different, the large load customer is responsible for the differences. 2026-04-27 14:57:16 From James Hanika to Everyone: Data center companies policing their own compliance with laws and regulations is unacceptable. 2026-04-27 14:59:10 From Nancy Holbrook to Everyone: RMI article dated Nov 7 2025 “Large Energy Users Want Power Here’s How To Protect. Other Ratepayers from the Costs” 2026-04-27 14:59:48 From Charlie Inman (WA UTC) to Everyone: Replying to "RMI article dated Nov 7 2025 “Large Energy Users W...": Here is the link to that article: Large Energy Users Want Power. Here’s How to Protect Other Ratepayers from the Costs. - RMI 2026-04-27 15:02:45 From James Hanika to Everyone: is that previous comment seeking alleviation of UTC's own compliance, given the extenuating circumstances of having to manage the onslaught of energy demand from data centers? why in the world would we then not just stem the tide and say no more massive energy user applications? 2026-04-27 15:03:12 From James Hanika to Everyone: instead of seek exemption from compliance with the law. 2026-04-27 15:07:39 From Rep. Doglio 22 to Everyone: SB5982 passed this year does require large loads who build behind the meter generation to comply with CETA. Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE:👍🏼 2026-04-27 15:10:00 From Nancy Holbrook to Everyone: Replying to "RMI article dated Nov 7 2025 “Large Energy Users W...": Thank you Charlie 2026-04-27 15:16:38 From Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE to Everyone: At a high level, it seems like the systems that will be most successful here are those that plan for both supply and demand together, so that load is not only something to be served, but something that can be actively understood as part of the system. We appreciate the Commission convening this discussion and the perspectives shared today, and we look forward to continuing to engage as this work moves forward. Thank you. Jim Huffman CDRPA:👍 2026-04-27 15:17:20 From Charlie Inman (WA UTC) to Everyone: UTC Policy contact emails: Charlie Inman, Charlie.inman@utc.wa.gov Heather Moline, heather.moline@utc.wa.gov Cristina Narvaez, Cristina.narvaez@utc.wa.gov Sapna Gheewala-Dowla Alliance to Save Energy ASE:👍🏼 2026-04-27 15:17:34 From Rep. Doglio 22 to Everyone: what are the next steps for the UTC? 2026-04-27 15:18:28 From Elijah Cetas - CRITFC to Everyone: Is there a way to access the chat after the meeting? Jean Marie Dreyer, Public Counsel:👍 2026-04-27 15:18:47 From Heather Moline, WA UTC to Everyone: do you have a save chat function, using three dots top right? 2026-04-27 15:18:59 From James Hanika to Everyone: will you publish the chat so as to have record of the dialogue with the public on this? 2026-04-27 15:19:12 From Elijah Cetas - CRITFC to Everyone: Replying to "do you have a save chat function, using three dots...": I do not 2026-04-27 15:19:44 From James Hanika to Everyone: awesome - transcript of chat. thank you! 2026-04-27 15:20:06 From Elijah Cetas - CRITFC to Everyone: Is the UTC accepting comments in this docket after this workshop, or is it better to send to the policy teams' 2026-04-27 15:21:00 From James Hanika to Everyone: thank you all. 2026-04-27 15:22:59 From Alice Lockhart to Everyone: Thank you! There was some great open-ness and transparency here! Charlee Thompson (she/her), NWEC:➕ 2026-04-27 15:23:09 From Elizabeth O'Connell to Everyone: Thank you! 2026-04-27 15:23:11 From Charlee Thompson (she/her), NWEC to Everyone: Thank you!!